What Do You Want to See From the Fantastic 4 in Avenger's Doomsday?

Marvel's First Family was recently introduced in the MCU and it appears that the characters (especially Franklin) will play a pivotal role in the next two Avengers movies. What particularly would you like to see from them? For me:

**Reed:** I would like to see lead his own group of heroes. I imagine heroes will be split across the universe/multiverse. If there is a space group I imagine read will lead it. And a ground groups will likely be lead by Sam Wilson, Bucky/Yelena/ or Shuri. I want to see some clear relationship between Reed and Doom with many instances where their intelligence clashes and Reed can outsmart Doom or figure out a way out of one of his traps.

**Sue:** This maybe a Hot take, but I don't want her to have a relationship with Namor. It will feel like pointless TV drama. I would love if Doom somehow possessed her or controlled her mind and made her work for him. I think it could be cool to have some Doom possed Sue guarding Franklin from other Avengers. Think it would be cool to have her and Franklin next to Doom instead of with the rest of the cast.

**Johnny and The Thing:** I honestly don't know what they should do here with these two other than cool fights.

I'd love to see some character interactions with Johnny and Spiderman or Rocket, but they aren't listed in the cast. I guess we could see him with Sentry and the Thunderbolts which could be fun. I can also imagine him being a heavy hitter in the "Avenger's vs X-Men" battles so I'm sure his fights will be great.

The Thing I obviously would love to see him fight. Maybe Hulk or against the X-Men. The Fantastic 4 movie set up that he's a really good pilot. So it's likely he will be in space with Reed and maybe not fighting as much as we'd think.

**Franklin:** Serve the plot lol.

This is currently what I would love to see out of the Fantastic 4 in Doomsday.

What are your thoughts? What would you want to see?

Commentaires

Powersoutdotcom2025-12-12 16:27

Clobberin', flamin' on, stretchin', and Vanessa Kirby demanding the head of RDJ on a spike.

MicrowaveBurrito25682025-12-12 16:30

Reed and Doom rivalry. Reed stretching way more.

HoowaiArYuhMaDough2025-12-12 21:31

I want Doom to stretch Reed out

Slainlion2025-12-12 22:40

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Ozzdo2025-12-12 16:36

A genuine Doom/FF rivalry, particularly with Reed. Two of the most intelligent people in existence butting heads with each other.

Vumi_2025-12-12 16:56

Would be interesting how Loki would fit in this group. Not in terms of rivalry, but in terms of knowlegdge and intelligence. Assuming the Loki in Doomsday is the same variant we saw in his TV show at the end of season 2 (Loki, the God of Stories holding the Multiverse together), one could argue that Loki is definitely among the smartest in the entire multiverse.

HawkeyeGild2025-12-12 16:36

Hulk vs thing (and any character development for Thing is good).

Johnny and Spiderman

Reed v Doom plus more stretch

Sue and Namor

Teliporter3342025-12-12 18:30

Agreed on everything except the Sue and Namor part. I’d like for him to try and shoot his shot and for Sue to just laugh it off and head over to Reed.

CaptainRedblood2025-12-12 16:46

A little more... I don't know, *vitality* from Thing? I was surprised what little impression he made in the movie considering the major talents involved in his performance.

LordVaderVader2025-12-12 22:12

Honestly, we really need The Thing throwing some fists with powerful foes. Don't say he should fight Hulk, because Banner is kind of chill currently, but there are plenty of big minifigures in Marvel to use.

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RyFro2025-12-14 00:34

The Thing would be the perfect person to go toe to toe with a raged out Hulk.

matty_nice2025-12-12 16:49

The FF interacting with the Marvel characters. A big reason I like these films is that they are in a connected universe, and so far, the FF weren't connected in their film.

More importantly, I want general audiences to fall in love with the team. So far, they aren't.

MyNameIs_Jordan2025-12-12 16:52

I wanna see a little...

Jumpin'

WHAT

a little bit of...

Punchin'

WHAT

AND A LITTLE BIT OF ASS WHOPPIN'

WHAT

To save the multiverse

BECAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO

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Mizerous2025-12-13 00:03

What?

Careless_Royal82092025-12-12 16:53

Some fucking development of their rivalry with Doctor Doom, or I'm gonna be pissed!

ContentAssumption2042025-12-12 16:57

A recast.

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MACGamer12025-12-12 17:10

Reed/Doom rivalry and for reed to be the focus, main character

Wooden_Passage_26122025-12-12 17:22

Reed vs Doom

NotACatWithAccordion2025-12-12 17:30

Make Reid more stretchy

BigBlue11052025-12-12 17:33

I want Reed to show off more of his big brain. I wanna see Tony Stark-levels of intelligence montages where he’s just sciencing the shit out of things. And I wanna see Thing go all Hulk and show off his strength

Smaragd442025-12-12 17:33

Vanessa Kirby

Dell0c02025-12-12 17:35

The Punisher seeing a pic of The Thing before his transformation.

Edboy7962025-12-12 17:43

More stuff on Ben, facing off against Doom as a team, intellectual or physical and of course their interactions as a family out of time and out of universe amongst the rest of the cast

The_Erlenmeyer_Flask2025-12-12 17:52

I want to see Vision install his own A.I. in Herbie that way Herbie can be a much better protector for the team or maybe Franklin and Vision work together to create something.

Rastarapha3202025-12-12 18:05

Team work

Teliporter3342025-12-12 18:28

I want:

* Doom and Reed’s rivalry to be up front and centre in the movie’s themes/story and for Reed to be the authority among the cast on understanding who Victor is
* Sue and Reed to be primary Narrative leads while having Johnny and Ben be strong supporting figures for them because Victor kidnapped Franklin and this is personal
* An action scene where all four of them fight Victor on their own, without the other cast of Avengers characters
* An action scene when they work together with the other Avengers cast members to take on an overpowered Doom
* Their amazing suits from First Steps to be used again, with minor, or no, alterations. (It’d be great if Reed had a white collar on his suit like the rest of the team does)
* To see a bit more of Universe 828 in a flashback scene that shows the history that the FF has of facing off against Doom in Latveria
* Doom’s face to never be shown and, if it is, it’s scarred heavily
* Ben having a bit more of a lovable temper, a relationship with Alecia Masters, and a stronger New York accent
* Have Johnny and Ben say “Flame On” and “It’s Clobbering Time,” respectively, more affectionately and frequently than just once in the movie
* A fight between the Hulk and the Thing (If Bruce Banner is a surprise in the movie)
* The FF to interact with the Avengers and X-Men in a collaborative way, only fighting them if either side if forced against their will

Pretty standard stuff for any story that uses Doom, their ultimate adversary, as the primary villain. (Except for that last point)

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EdwardBil2025-12-12 21:24

Yeah I was really expecting Ben to be a full on Ritchie. Ben and Johnny should be huge loudmouth personalities.

SeekerVash2025-12-12 18:33

* Reed - Actually being the smartest guy in the room instead of not knowing what to do 99% of the time
* Torch - Actually being dangerous and impactful, someone whose powers are all offensive should be a major force in combat
* Thing - Actually doing something instead of being more invisible than the Invisible Girl
* Sue - Not being the answer to everything. Not dying because she used her powers.

Heisenburgo2025-12-12 18:42

Reed and DOOM's rivalry and relationship being properly established, with Reed playing a big role in the movie. None of this >!Chris Evans vs RDJ 2.0!< nonsense crap that has been rumoured about the movie. Reed doing some super science and explaining what the multiverse is about. Also I want him doing stuff with his powers beyond being vaguely stretchy.

Sue doing cool shit with her powers again. Then in the end when they fail to stop DOOM, He rewrites reality to Battleworld and Sue becomes His queen, with that cool medieval aesthetic and all, only for her to finally realize He was manipulating them all along and that He stole Reed's family, and she makes Him pay.

Johnny, I dunno, some scenes with Spider-Man I guess.

Ben, to actually clobber and punch stuff for once, and to be more than an overglorified supporting character

Juiceman97942025-12-12 19:15

I feel like it wouldn't be right without one of the four if not all four of them

Jaden_Pollen342025-12-12 19:54

I hope they are the main characters in Avengers Doomsday, because what kind of attachment would Sam Wilson or Thor have to Dr Doom? I’d say make the F4 the main characters and Dr Doom’s actual rivals

Prize_Annual4982025-12-12 20:59

I wanted to see franklin beat galactus’s butt right out of the womb or at least more of Dr. Doom

Media_Dunce2025-12-12 20:59

It would be interesting to see FS’s Shalla-Bal encounter ROTSS’s Norrin Radd

Equal-Train-44592025-12-12 21:05

I want to see LESS of them. Worst MCU movie yet. They ruined Johnny Storm.

Kevin_Rubio2025-12-13 00:07

A good story, with good character interaction.

Emondm242025-12-13 02:50

The Reed/Doom dynamic. They must be foes

burywmore2025-12-13 03:31

I would like to see them use their powers together. Reed to be much more stretchable, plus to be more dynamic and confident. He's the leader, and he's the smartest man on Earth, and he knows it.

Buffalax812025-12-13 12:32

Something out of the guys. The movie was really just an IW showcase.

-NinjaTurtleHermit-2025-12-13 14:54

Them interacting with Steve Rogers and Tony Stark.

...oh, wait...

Well, then, at least interacting with Spider-Man and She-Hulk.

Mammoth-Room-99342025-12-13 17:31

Not to be boring as this one..

Dokkan862025-12-13 18:57

If Hulk doesn’t do it, then can we get Ben to do a fastball special with someone?

Professional-List7422025-12-13 19:26

Nothing. Just have them in the back room spouting technobabble.

Let Johnny Storm fly a bit but keep the others away from the action.

Dull. Dull. Dull.

Send Ben to the West Indies off screen and have him come back with dreadlocks for a quick gag and that’s it.

Sue and Reed? Keep them off my screen. I want to be entertained and so bin them.

Fantastic Bore.

RyFro2025-12-14 00:32

Exposition

SupervillainMustache2025-12-14 04:18

Ben Grimm felt like he barely had anything to do in F4 First Steps.

I want him to actually fight something.

Chrispy_Kelloggs2025-12-14 17:07

Reed needs to be a focal point of the film in regard to his relationship with Doom. He also needs to use his abilities a lot more creatively.